Yoshi348
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« on: December 10, 2008, 04:25:25 PM » |
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Given that I never actually played the damn game, but loved the fest and kinda wanted to actually play the game at some point, I decided to go what the hell and buy this sucker. I just went through the middle dome in the future at this point. I almost decided to go with Soapy for Lucca, but I decided against it in the end and go with my own names.
It's probably for the best, anyway, since it turns out the thing has been retranslated (fair enough, really), messing with the iconic lines of the fest. For instance, "But you're still hungry..." is now "But you're just as hungry as before". Also after bringing back the seed and Hoor brags about being healthy, apparently it was supposed to be talking about having hope instead, cause that's how it plays out here. Ah well. I don't remember any "spoony bard" lines that were iconically stupid outside the fest, anyway.
Anyway I'm having a good time with the game itself as well, which is good. They put a mini-map on the bottom screen so no getting that lost, and the new battle controls are much more flexible, buttons or stylus.
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[19:48] <Soaprman[1]> i am playing as a mii named kawaii luv btw [19:48] <Soaprman[1]> so you know that's me
[8:44:51 PM] MelvanaInChains: luckily thought i beat the shit out of sephiroth with a zombie so there's that
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Soaprman
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« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2008, 05:33:02 PM » |
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I'm kind of interested in hearing about what bonus dungeons or whatever are in it and how those are. Do tell us when you get that far!
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"vegeta,,,, there are three gokus. what does the scouter say about their combined power level?" " it's over 27,000" join the math club today
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Yoshi348
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« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2008, 07:29:00 PM » |
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The back of the box says there's a bonus dungeon but that's probably endgame.
There's this monster battling arena thing going on. You can't access it until you reach the End of Time, which I just reached, so I only played with it just a bit, but I can say that it looks like you just have these generic monster things rather than monsters from the game. Also you have to buy the items for the mode from your own G, and then they get dumped in with your regular items inventory even though you can't use them in the "real" game. But hey, that's what Autosort is for.
Also an extras option on the main menu where they have like a Pokedex on items and techs and everything. Think the guides option in Castlevania: PoR. My completionist compulsion will get a workout. Oddly, the bestiary is the only thing you can actual look up while you're actually playing, given that it's the useful one that has all the enemy weaknesses. And also an entry for items dropped, and then a seperate item entry marked "Charm", so I guess there's a "steal shit" move in this game after all. Ayla, perhaps?
Also nice having an SNES port to the DS instead of the GBA, so the music quality goes up rather than down. Especially with this game.
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[19:48] <Soaprman[1]> i am playing as a mii named kawaii luv btw [19:48] <Soaprman[1]> so you know that's me
[8:44:51 PM] MelvanaInChains: luckily thought i beat the shit out of sephiroth with a zombie so there's that
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Soaprman
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« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2008, 07:34:37 PM » |
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seperate item entry marked "Charm", so I guess there's a "steal shit" move in this game after all. Ayla, perhaps?
Yep. The bestiary, etc. extras were actually in the Playstation version as well. You could only access them from the title screen in that one, though. Kind of nice of them to let you access the bestiary in-game this time around!
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"vegeta,,,, there are three gokus. what does the scouter say about their combined power level?" " it's over 27,000" join the math club today
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« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2008, 03:33:32 AM » |
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Also nice having an SNES port to the DS instead of the GBA, so the music quality goes up rather than down. Especially with this game.
This was my biggest problem with FF6 Adv
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« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2008, 03:55:41 AM » |
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Has anyone played both versions? I'm not sure if I should get this for the DS or just emulate it for the SNES, because I'm not likely to do both due to my short attention span.
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« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2008, 08:39:23 AM » |
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it's p much the same thing, DS is just super portable
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 I...I am an awkward man.
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« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2008, 09:44:15 AM » |
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i played the original onee, didnt beat it though, but i played most of it! :p dont know how the DS one is...hope it's like snow. 
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Yoshi348
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« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2008, 03:16:57 PM » |
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it's p much the same thing, DS is just super portable
p much that, and a modern translation that isn't all 4kids'd by NOA, or just plain garbled by incompetence. What's that worth to you is up to you. The bonus dungeon is still a mystery to me though, of course. Also, I forgot Magus uses SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE TRIANGLE!!!!!!!!!!! during the fight. I totally couldn't help yelling that aloud.
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[19:48] <Soaprman[1]> i am playing as a mii named kawaii luv btw [19:48] <Soaprman[1]> so you know that's me
[8:44:51 PM] MelvanaInChains: luckily thought i beat the shit out of sephiroth with a zombie so there's that
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« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2008, 04:55:05 PM » |
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wait they changed Dark Matter to Space Triangle? That's SHIT!
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Yoshi348
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« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2008, 05:41:21 PM » |
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No they didn't silly. 
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[19:48] <Soaprman[1]> i am playing as a mii named kawaii luv btw [19:48] <Soaprman[1]> so you know that's me
[8:44:51 PM] MelvanaInChains: luckily thought i beat the shit out of sephiroth with a zombie so there's that
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« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2008, 05:44:51 PM » |
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I think Yoshi was referencing the Chrono Trigger videos, Apollo.
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« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2008, 07:17:26 PM » |
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oh I didn't watch those I am laughing
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« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2008, 07:39:31 PM » |
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SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE TRIIIIIIAAAAAAANGLLLLLLLE
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« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2008, 09:07:20 PM » |
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i didn't either I just assumed
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« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2008, 05:09:45 AM » |
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Chrono trigger DS Voice actors
Rick - Half the cast Krem - Half the cast Ging - Ayla
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Amen to dat brudda ~Wise Profit Tito
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Yoshi348
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« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2008, 08:22:27 PM » |
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I'm kind of interested in hearing about what bonus dungeons or whatever are in it and how those are. Do tell us when you get that far!
So yeah! Overall there's no simple "bonus dungeon" but rather a lot of content, at least 25% the length of the main game. It's really uneven though. When you beat the game (you might possibly have to go through the Black Omen as well, but I doubt that was a requirement), they open up a portal in each time period (besides 1999 of course). You can simply load the game to get to them; you don't have to NG+. (In fact, I haven't NG+'d yet so I don't know if you have to re-unlock them if you do.) Two of them both go to this hidden village in two different time periods, which is connected to quite a few other areas here and there as well. You have a whole bunch of different quests to do there; some of which are just fetch quests, but there's two dungeon-type areas as well. It's mostly good, but you do have to run up and down this one mountain about 374 times. The other three are marked "Dimensional Rift". You start off by going through pretty much random rooms from the rest of the game, which seem to be randomly selected and include a few new ones. They're the same enemies though that you now probably horribly outlevel, and the new rooms are rare and not much better, so it's pretty stupid. After about 5 rooms you then get a save room with an escape hatch, then you get to an actual new area. I guess you could call them dungeons, but one of them is totally outdoors, but I guess it's a dungeon gameplay wise. These are fairly good areas, and one of them uses a nifty new music track (I think I heard it was in the original, but unused). Then you get another save and escape hatch, and then you fight a doppleganger boss of either Crono, Marle, or Lucca, one each for each era, with you having to lead your party with the person you're facing. The enemies are all pallette swaps of earlier enemies, which stinks, but many of them are not just "x, but stronger" or "x, but fire element". Chest contain (besides high tier heals and cash) basically a new tier of equipment, basically what the original designers would have made if the game had 10 more levels to go. Just like the main game, not a lot of stuff that is explicitly better than everything else, but some nice stuff in there. Most of it isn't too crazy, but there's a bow for Marle that always does 777, and there's an arm for Robo that has 0 attack but says it "May deal 9999 damage". I didn't try it out because it'd either be worthless or horribly broken, and I wasn't interested in either. Once you've beaten the three Dimensional Rifts, when you go back to the End of Time Gaspar tells you the Bucket of Doom can take you to the super final boss instead of to Lavos. It's a total fucking letdown though. The super final boss, Dream Devourer, is just a pallete swapped Lavos shell. WTF?!?! It doesn't FIGHT exactly like one; if they had made a new sprite you probably wouldn't connect the two, but still it just sucks hard to fight a glorified pallete swap. If you beat it, you get a 13th ending, but the ending makes NO FUCKING SENSE whatsoever unless, I assume, you've played Chrono Cross. But then from what I heard Chrono Cross makes your head hurt trying to figure it out, so that's questionable too. All I know is that it manages to intimate the other thing I heard about Chrono Cross as well, that it completely ruins Chrono Triggers happy ending and makes them all die horribly or something. *sigh* So yeah, love/hate with the new content here. EDIT: Oh yeah, forgot to mention that after defeating the super final boss, they give you file an actual "best weapon ever" for Crono. Can you say 90% crit rate?
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« Last Edit: December 13, 2008, 08:40:10 PM by Yoshi348 »
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[19:48] <Soaprman[1]> i am playing as a mii named kawaii luv btw [19:48] <Soaprman[1]> so you know that's me
[8:44:51 PM] MelvanaInChains: luckily thought i beat the shit out of sephiroth with a zombie so there's that
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Isao Kronos african children are evil
I'M SUCH A GODDAMNED HERO!
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« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2009, 07:07:16 PM » |
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The hidden village quests are pretty freaking awesome if you use Ayla or Frog, especially Frog. Increased Masamune hit and 50% MP cost rocks.
I borrowed this off my friend a while ago and ran through everything except the Dimensional Rift or whatever. Figured there wasn't much of a point since I got tired of the game after utterly whomping Lavos.
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« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2009, 06:29:38 PM » |
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Since they decided to replace Ted Woolsey's translation they might as well have changed names like Melchior, Balthasar, Gaspar, Ozzie, Flea, Slash, and even Magus to names resembling their original Japanese ones.
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IN GOD WE TRUST
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Yoshi348
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« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2009, 02:18:37 PM » |
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Do you realize how utterly shitty the sage's original names were?
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[19:48] <Soaprman[1]> i am playing as a mii named kawaii luv btw [19:48] <Soaprman[1]> so you know that's me
[8:44:51 PM] MelvanaInChains: luckily thought i beat the shit out of sephiroth with a zombie so there's that
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